There are lots of gay men and women who have 100% monogamous relationships. It is true that there are gay men that exits that never have monogamous relationships. The same can be said for heterosexual men and women. By making sweeping generalizations and blanket statements about large groups of people you are bound to be wrong.
Most gay men and lesbians (that I know) have commited monogamous relationships and will certainly break up with their partner if they are cheated on.
Your comments reach a very wide audience and I am incredibly offended by your suggestion that most gay men are ok with casual sex outside a monogamous relationship. Fighting for gay rights is a struggle every day and your comments today sounded like the Christian Right's argument against gay marriage. "why should gays marry, they don't even treat monogamy with the respect it deserves."
As a long time fan, I am very, very, deeply dissapointed in you. This time just listen to Whoopi, she's right.
Joy! I'm fired up!!! I was in a 12 year heterosexual relationship and it was not only understood but expected to be monogamis (sp?). I believe that you fall in love with the person and not the gender. After that relationship fizzled, I fell in love with a women. I have the same beliefs and values...that has never changed. I still believe that if you are in a committed relationship, whether it be gay or not...you should be monogamis. I do believe that it seems different for some people that are gay. I understand what you are saying since I have have several friends that are in a gay relationship that do not stay faithful and still maintain that friendship and committed relationship. It is different for everyone but my opinion is this...committed is committed, gay or not!
Well, there goes my sleep for the rest of my life!! My son is married to another man and it is my understanding that they take their committment to each other very seriously and by marrying, promised to be faithful to each other. I don't agree with the guest Joy had on her show last night. Ok, let's say I hope this Mr. Savage is wrong.
The gay friends of my son and his partner all take their relationships very seriously and put that before everything else in their lives. This is certainly how they have presented themselves to me. I know my son would be heart broken if his partner "had a fling". It's an emotional connection as well as a physical one and any straying from that would be considered a complete breach of trust.
I have no issue with people being gay or straight but I really start freaking when I hear about this casual approach to sex. Maybe some people, straight or gay, believe casual sex is fine but I don't know of any gay men or women who could accept their partner straying. Why commit to one person if that's not what you believe?
Isn't this point of view rather insulting to the gay community in general? Gay or straight, we all want the same thing: love, security in that love, committment and integrity.
By stating that gay men don't take committment seriously it implies promiscuity which only increases the chances of Aids. I'm sure some gay and straight men have flings but it has not been what I've seen. If anything, straight men and women are more inclined to stray - just ask my ex husband! He thought fidelity was some kind of long playing record player.
Please research this and present the viewers with the facts rather than taking the word of one person and presenting it as a point of view. I think research would prove that Mr. Savage is incorrect!!!
Joy I left my partner of 24 yrs. because I found out that he was in the planning stages of hooking-up
with someone else. To my knowledge nothing ever happened and I did some investigating before confronted my %#!*#
ex. It' been 11 months and there are still days I can't get out of bed (sometimes 3 or 4).
I do know most gay men probably wouldn't walk-out, but I also know quite a few who wouldn't and havn't put up with that either.
Katez44 Thank you for expressing exactly what I also wanted to add, but it would have taken me about 2 hours to type.(This little bit took me about 20 minutes.)
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CarsonMcClellen Says:
January 26th, 2010, 1:55 pmJoy,
There are lots of gay men and women who have 100% monogamous relationships. It is true that there are gay men that exits that never have monogamous relationships. The same can be said for heterosexual men and women. By making sweeping generalizations and blanket statements about large groups of people you are bound to be wrong.
Most gay men and lesbians (that I know) have commited monogamous relationships and will certainly break up with their partner if they are cheated on.
Your comments reach a very wide audience and I am incredibly offended by your suggestion that most gay men are ok with casual sex outside a monogamous relationship. Fighting for gay rights is a struggle every day and your comments today sounded like the Christian Right's argument against gay marriage. "why should gays marry, they don't even treat monogamy with the respect it deserves."
As a long time fan, I am very, very, deeply dissapointed in you. This time just listen to Whoopi, she's right.
kind regards,
Christopher Carson McClellen
amatdanb Says:
January 26th, 2010, 2:08 pmJoy! I'm fired up!!! I was in a 12 year heterosexual relationship and it was not only understood but expected to be monogamis (sp?). I believe that you fall in love with the person and not the gender. After that relationship fizzled, I fell in love with a women. I have the same beliefs and values...that has never changed. I still believe that if you are in a committed relationship, whether it be gay or not...you should be monogamis. I do believe that it seems different for some people that are gay. I understand what you are saying since I have have several friends that are in a gay relationship that do not stay faithful and still maintain that friendship and committed relationship. It is different for everyone but my opinion is this...committed is committed, gay or not!
Katez44 Says:
January 26th, 2010, 7:36 pmWell, there goes my sleep for the rest of my life!! My son is married to another man and it is my understanding that they take their committment to each other very seriously and by marrying, promised to be faithful to each other. I don't agree with the guest Joy had on her show last night. Ok, let's say I hope this Mr. Savage is wrong.
The gay friends of my son and his partner all take their relationships very seriously and put that before everything else in their lives. This is certainly how they have presented themselves to me. I know my son would be heart broken if his partner "had a fling". It's an emotional connection as well as a physical one and any straying from that would be considered a complete breach of trust.
I have no issue with people being gay or straight but I really start freaking when I hear about this casual approach to sex. Maybe some people, straight or gay, believe casual sex is fine but I don't know of any gay men or women who could accept their partner straying. Why commit to one person if that's not what you believe?
Isn't this point of view rather insulting to the gay community in general? Gay or straight, we all want the same thing: love, security in that love, committment and integrity.
By stating that gay men don't take committment seriously it implies promiscuity which only increases the chances of Aids. I'm sure some gay and straight men have flings but it has not been what I've seen. If anything, straight men and women are more inclined to stray - just ask my ex husband! He thought fidelity was some kind of long playing record player.
Please research this and present the viewers with the facts rather than taking the word of one person and presenting it as a point of view. I think research would prove that Mr. Savage is incorrect!!!
jmrg66 Says:
January 26th, 2010, 9:08 pmJoy I left my partner of 24 yrs. because I found out that he was in the planning stages of hooking-up
with someone else. To my knowledge nothing ever happened and I did some investigating before confronted my %#!*#
ex. It' been 11 months and there are still days I can't get out of bed (sometimes 3 or 4).
I do know most gay men probably wouldn't walk-out, but I also know quite a few who wouldn't and havn't put up with that either.
jmrg66 Says:
January 26th, 2010, 9:45 pmKatez44 Thank you for expressing exactly what I also wanted to add, but it would have taken me about 2 hours to type.(This little bit took me about 20 minutes.)